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Post by Adam Schmelzle on Dec 11, 2008 17:46:21 GMT -5
Jamieee.
Hmm... The only way to explain this person's sudden emergence at the top of the list is either a bug I don't know about, or they are purposely cheating.
I CAN and will now add server-side detection for invalid scores. This is silly people, why are you cheating in a free flower growing simulator?? There are no prizes....sheesh.
Maybe if Jamieee is around, you can offer some insight. Maybe report a bug?
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Post by Adam Schmelzle on Dec 11, 2008 17:56:54 GMT -5
I have banned the invalid scoring person for a week from the online board. Tomorrow I will add the server side validation code. Shouldn't take long, and it will be fairly good at detecting future cheaters.
People: leave your clocks alone.
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dugstool
Somebody who actually posted!
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Post by dugstool on Dec 13, 2008 15:41:27 GMT -5
hilgerta's score on orchid.... Is that legit? Growin pretty fast...
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doglover427
OMG 5 posts!
I love dogs & orchids :)
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Post by doglover427 on Dec 13, 2008 23:00:01 GMT -5
How in the world can some one cheat? Some sort of code?
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Post by stuberman on Dec 13, 2008 23:29:05 GMT -5
Messages in the forums show some have adjusted their phone clocks to give the illusion of greater elapsed time. Some hVe also claimed that their phones did this as the result of a bug such as a problem with Windows Vista and iPhone syncing Ffecting the time.
Some with too much time on their hands could also analyze the network traffic and simulate application traffic. I doubt the communication between the app and server is cryptographically signed to prevent spoofing. I am not familiar with iPhone apps this is something someone more familiar with iPhone's could answer.
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Post by chevyvette1 on Dec 14, 2008 9:00:57 GMT -5
I agree with dugstool on hilgertas score, my wife was laughing at me cuz I was yell n cheater!! He Literally blows by Adam and my self Over night and gets like a 30cm lead!! Come on people!! And Adam, as always, keep up the good work!!
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dugstool
Somebody who actually posted!
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Post by dugstool on Dec 14, 2008 11:03:34 GMT -5
Hilgertas score hasn't moved at all in a couple days.... That seems strange.
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Post by sweet on Dec 14, 2008 12:55:47 GMT -5
there my be a glich in the program because when i got the new update for the rose i started from zero like every body but that night i was in 34 place and i whent to water my flower the add was loading and i notice that my moisture level stayed at 100 and the growth rate stayed at 4% when it was done i was 3rd now im 5th because misty moo is too good so i gave up on first place and wonted to get some sleep
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Post by Adam Schmelzle on Dec 14, 2008 17:24:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the detailed info!
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Post by chevyvette1 on Dec 14, 2008 18:00:34 GMT -5
thanks sweet!! My wife thinks I'm nuts cuz I'm always watch n my water level!! she says I'm way to competetive!! Now I need some of the other top players to go to bed as well. LOL
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Post by stuberman on Dec 15, 2008 11:22:59 GMT -5
Looks like Curtis found a way to climb to fame a little after 11 AM EST "1 64393.183cm Curtis"
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Post by Adam Schmelzle on Dec 15, 2008 11:44:19 GMT -5
Thanks for pointing that out. I hadn't checked the scores today. I'll be looking into the scoring again today. Thankfully the fixes I put in have helped tremendously compared to the previous version, but there are clearly still a few bugs and/or exploits to sort out.
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Post by stuberman on Dec 16, 2008 9:14:02 GMT -5
Looks like we may have another faker... 1 575.179cm Den pirre
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Post by Adam Schmelzle on Dec 16, 2008 9:41:21 GMT -5
I still haven't had much of a chance to look into the bug yet. Hopefully soon. For now that person is banned from online scores temporarily. I suspect that it's a bug, as I have been informed by multiple people that there appears to still be one.
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Post by stuberman on Dec 16, 2008 9:47:44 GMT -5
Thanks Adam - it sure wakes up some of the players... This one looks actually a little more suspicious since it is not a huge number but very close to the theoretical maximum for flower growth since you released the game.
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Post by stuberman on Dec 16, 2008 10:08:43 GMT -5
It looks like someone simply multiplied 4cm/hr X 24hrs X 6 days = 576 cm I think the actual possible would be 3.8cm/hr/avg X 24hrs X 5 days (I think Apple released the code on Dec 11) around 456 cm
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Post by sweet on Dec 16, 2008 10:14:45 GMT -5
Go to sleep stuberman your killing me do you leave your phone on all the time or do you log in every ten min like me
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Post by stuberman on Dec 16, 2008 13:21:08 GMT -5
I admit it I am being a bit compulsive with it right now - it will wear off eventually. It is a real trick to juggle between meetings at work. You find that you need to check it every 12 minutes... even when sound asleep...
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Post by sweet on Dec 16, 2008 14:16:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the 2nd karma and stuberman I'm saying up all night
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Post by stuberman on Dec 18, 2008 14:27:50 GMT -5
Looks like we have another one on Rose: 1 7233.871cm Lolaaa
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Post by sweet on Dec 18, 2008 14:37:41 GMT -5
About time sombody passes u now you now how I feel LOL
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Post by stuberman on Dec 18, 2008 14:52:54 GMT -5
I like learning a little humility LOL (but only a little...)
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Post by Adam Schmelzle on Dec 18, 2008 16:31:45 GMT -5
Person is gone now. Don't be surprised if some of the old ones come back some times, I'm only banishing them for 1 week at a time. If at some point I feel that the game is 100% bug proof I'll perma-ban people, but not until then.
Later.
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Post by stuberman on Dec 20, 2008 19:02:54 GMT -5
Looks like Den Pirre is back and climbing quickly (considering that you probably banned him Dec 16 and somehow is averaging over 160 cm per day)
Just now: 10 647.796cm Den pirre
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Post by stuberman on Dec 30, 2008 13:48:24 GMT -5
OKAY - so he/she isn't the first but it is another Rose cheater: 1 13582.394cm Rosallie
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Post by stuberman on Dec 30, 2008 14:21:42 GMT -5
And growing.... 1 13584.226cm Rosallie
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Post by psych1098 on Dec 30, 2008 19:14:32 GMT -5
Looks like we already have a time warper on the daffodil. There is just no way that in a couple of hours time someone got up to 169cm without cheating. What a loooooser!
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Post by Adam Schmelzle on Dec 30, 2008 19:25:13 GMT -5
Strangely it seems to have fixed itself..... I saw that score, and when I was about to ban the user they disappeared on their own....
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Post by psych1098 on Dec 30, 2008 19:29:21 GMT -5
Thanks for checkin in
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Post by Adam Schmelzle on Dec 30, 2008 20:06:10 GMT -5
Roger, roger.
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